Viewers may have been surprised to see a new side of Beyoncé when she assumed the role of good-girl-gone-bad Honey B in the video for Lady Gaga’s “Telephone.” But that was all part of Gaga’s plan, she tells “Big Boy’s Neighborhood.”

“We definitely get along. She’s a good friend of mine and I was so excited to make this video with her. The video in a lot of ways is more about her even than it is about me. It was sort of a pop-art venture for me to bring her into my world. In a way, the video is an attempt for her and I to erase pop music as we know it up until this very point. It’s meant to change the perspective of the world on what a pop music video should be and she’s kind of the vehicle for that. In reality, more people around the world are familiar with her aesthetics than they are with mine. It was something for me to kind of change the way that you see her for one video.”